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	<title>Comments on: The pleasure and the pain</title>
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	<description>Observations on sea kayaking (among some other things) from Argyll, Scotland</description>
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		<title>By: pamf</title>
		<link>http://www.kayakacrossthewater.co.uk/2009/05/16/the-pleasure-and-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>pamf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gavin - We weren&#039;t in that group, but we can be frequently spotted in the Toward vicinity. I think the container ships are all up Loch Striven now. Apparently 18 more are to join them - see http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2516917.0.troubled_waters.php .

Won&#039;t be very scenic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gavin &#8211; We weren&#8217;t in that group, but we can be frequently spotted in the Toward vicinity. I think the container ships are all up Loch Striven now. Apparently 18 more are to join them &#8211; see <a href="http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2516917.0.troubled_waters.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2516917.0.troubled_waters.php</a> .</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t be very scenic!</p>
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		<title>By: gavin</title>
		<link>http://www.kayakacrossthewater.co.uk/2009/05/16/the-pleasure-and-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Pam, for the link that gives a small explanation into the 3 container ships...a pal an myself left Toward and cruised around them before heading off again....that was Jun 21 and we saw a group of paddlers as we left Toward, were you amongst them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Pam, for the link that gives a small explanation into the 3 container ships&#8230;a pal an myself left Toward and cruised around them before heading off again&#8230;.that was Jun 21 and we saw a group of paddlers as we left Toward, were you amongst them?</p>
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		<title>By: pamf</title>
		<link>http://www.kayakacrossthewater.co.uk/2009/05/16/the-pleasure-and-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>pamf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff - Thanks so much for your thoughtful comment. The elbow/wrist pain appears to have gone. I&#039;ve experienced no discomfort since that episode, although I have been using my old Lendal Kinetic Touring crank shaft paddle, having loaned my Werner Cyprus paddle to a friend. Plus conditions have been very calm. Of course, I refuse to countenance that the Werner paddle could be causing a problem (too expensive!), but feel it relates more to my paddling style and rougher conditions. I think you may be right about the consistent relaxed grip. I&#039;m also guilty of forgetting torso rotation on occasion. I like your idea about videoing and stretching too. Will give it a go. Thanks again. Pam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff &#8211; Thanks so much for your thoughtful comment. The elbow/wrist pain appears to have gone. I&#8217;ve experienced no discomfort since that episode, although I have been using my old Lendal Kinetic Touring crank shaft paddle, having loaned my Werner Cyprus paddle to a friend. Plus conditions have been very calm. Of course, I refuse to countenance that the Werner paddle could be causing a problem (too expensive!), but feel it relates more to my paddling style and rougher conditions. I think you may be right about the consistent relaxed grip. I&#8217;m also guilty of forgetting torso rotation on occasion. I like your idea about videoing and stretching too. Will give it a go. Thanks again. Pam</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Fabiszewski</title>
		<link>http://www.kayakacrossthewater.co.uk/2009/05/16/the-pleasure-and-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Fabiszewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 13:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pam--- How is the elbow pain?  I too have experienced that exact type of pain paddling in heavy winds and chop.  I video taped myself one day to recreate the pain and I have discovered that I am guilty of a few things.  After eight hours of paddling I was flexing the wrists during some braces, and stern draws.  The video also relieved that I did not have a consistent relaxed grip on the paddle in heavy winds and chop.

See if you can recreate your experience and record it on video.

My remedy before I paddle is to stretch / warm up my wrists before I paddle rough weather.  I wear a paddling glove that has wrist support and does not constrict tendons. And I focus on paddling on a relaxed grip even when I am excited with what the water is doing.  I also do the same wrist exercises that rock climbers do while I am at work.  I sit at a desk and type a lot.

---I hope this helps, Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pam&#8212; How is the elbow pain?  I too have experienced that exact type of pain paddling in heavy winds and chop.  I video taped myself one day to recreate the pain and I have discovered that I am guilty of a few things.  After eight hours of paddling I was flexing the wrists during some braces, and stern draws.  The video also relieved that I did not have a consistent relaxed grip on the paddle in heavy winds and chop.</p>
<p>See if you can recreate your experience and record it on video.</p>
<p>My remedy before I paddle is to stretch / warm up my wrists before I paddle rough weather.  I wear a paddling glove that has wrist support and does not constrict tendons. And I focus on paddling on a relaxed grip even when I am excited with what the water is doing.  I also do the same wrist exercises that rock climbers do while I am at work.  I sit at a desk and type a lot.</p>
<p>&#8212;I hope this helps, Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: pamf</title>
		<link>http://www.kayakacrossthewater.co.uk/2009/05/16/the-pleasure-and-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>pamf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan - Wow, the power of the Interwebs! Indeed, we wish you both could have hung around longer so we could have ogled your kayaks - and chatted - some more :)  They are very beautiful boats (I am a sucker for sparkly things). Glad to hear that you got safely around the island. The weather was a bit changeable and one had to be be brisk and take advantage of any lulls, so we quite understand.

It was nice to meet you. Perhaps we&#039;ll bump into you on the water again some day. We&#039;ll be sure to recognise you - as long as you don&#039;t change kayaks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan &#8211; Wow, the power of the Interwebs! Indeed, we wish you both could have hung around longer so we could have ogled your kayaks &#8211; and chatted &#8211; some more <img src='http://www.kayakacrossthewater.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   They are very beautiful boats (I am a sucker for sparkly things). Glad to hear that you got safely around the island. The weather was a bit changeable and one had to be be brisk and take advantage of any lulls, so we quite understand.</p>
<p>It was nice to meet you. Perhaps we&#8217;ll bump into you on the water again some day. We&#8217;ll be sure to recognise you &#8211; as long as you don&#8217;t change kayaks!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.kayakacrossthewater.co.uk/2009/05/16/the-pleasure-and-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodness - we&#039;d never thought of our boats as being glam before. The glitter is just there to disguise the scratches, of which there are plenty. After we met I spent the rest of the day worrying that I&#039;d been a bit abrupt with you. Normally I&#039;m a sucker for bobbing around and chatting but that day I really wanted to get around the south end of Bute. I wanted to have the land between us and the forecast easterlies. The plan worked too, but we still had a lively sea the next day wherever the winds were funnelling through the low ground in the middle of the island.

I hope the wrists and elbows sort themselves out. These things usually do.

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodness &#8211; we&#8217;d never thought of our boats as being glam before. The glitter is just there to disguise the scratches, of which there are plenty. After we met I spent the rest of the day worrying that I&#8217;d been a bit abrupt with you. Normally I&#8217;m a sucker for bobbing around and chatting but that day I really wanted to get around the south end of Bute. I wanted to have the land between us and the forecast easterlies. The plan worked too, but we still had a lively sea the next day wherever the winds were funnelling through the low ground in the middle of the island.</p>
<p>I hope the wrists and elbows sort themselves out. These things usually do.</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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